
You're listening to Two Sides of FI, a conversation between two lifelong friends about financial independence - what it takes to get there and what comes after. One of us reached FI in 2020, the other in 2024. We started this show to document our different paths, and now that we're both post-FI, we're still figuring out how to use the freedom we spent years working toward. I'm Eric and I'm joined by my friend Jason, and this is our story.
Episodes

Sunday Jul 03, 2022
What the FIRE Community Gets Wrong - Talking with Karsten Jeske
Sunday Jul 03, 2022
Sunday Jul 03, 2022
What would you do if you ran out of money in retirement? It's hard to imagine a scarier outcome, and yet many on the FIRE path may be at risk for this if they get their portfolio withdrawal rate wrong. In this episode, Eric + Jason talk with Karsten Jeske, the creator of the Early Retirement Now blog. Known by many as "Big ERN", he is an economist who is well known to the FIRE community for his extensive work in characterizing safe withdrawal rates (SWR). In this episode, we dig into Karsten's free, powerful SWR Toolbox, and discuss topics including the downsides of FIRE calculators, 100% stock portfolios, the bucket strategy, why dividend investors are wrong, and his own post-FIRE life. If you're interested in FIRE, you can't afford to miss this information-packed episode!
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/swr

Sunday Jun 19, 2022
We Each Hired a Flat Fee Financial Advisor. Was it Worth It?
Sunday Jun 19, 2022
Sunday Jun 19, 2022
Here's what we learned by hiring a financial advisor for a fixed fee of $1,000. Rather than pay a costly ongoing assets under management (AUM) fee, we wanted to test out this increasingly popular fee-for-service advisement model. Eric and Jason discuss each hired the same fee-only, advice-only advisor for $1,000 to evaluate their portfolios and answer a variety of key questions. They share how they found this advisor, what the process was like, the specific questions + answers they had, and who they think could benefit from such a service. Is this the right option for you? Maybe.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/1Kadvisor

Sunday Jun 05, 2022
Stock Market on FIRE: What We’re Doing in a Downturn
Sunday Jun 05, 2022
Sunday Jun 05, 2022
You're on a FIRE path and the markets keep falling - what do you do? In this episode, Jason + Eric revisit the topic of market downturn and candidly discuss their pre- and post-FI moods in this turbulent time. Join us to learn what they're doing and thinking about right now as Jason nears the two-year post-FI mark and Eric contemplates pushing his 2024 FI date back. Topics discussed include rebalancing, how to monitor portfolio performance, moves we are making now, and feeling down about FIRE.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/downmarket

Sunday May 22, 2022
My New Life: Two Years After Early Retirement
Sunday May 22, 2022
Sunday May 22, 2022
Wondering what a day in the life in early retirement is like? Eric travels to California to shadow Jason and find out what his FIRE life is like nearly two years into early retirement. We learn how Jason fills his days, hear his concerns pre- and post-FI, discuss the merits of part-time "fun" jobs, and the reality of finances.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/tryingonFI

Sunday May 08, 2022
We Avoided Estate Planning. Here’s Why You Can’t Afford To (Part 2)
Sunday May 08, 2022
Sunday May 08, 2022
Don't make a common mistake that could cost your family dearly. If you don't have an estate plan, many essential decisions will be left to others, including the government. In this second installment in a two-part series, Eric + Jason continue their conversation about what they did to get their respective plans in place. Topics discussed in this episode include end of life decisions, powers of attorney, insurance, and how to get started. Don't delay further - join us now for the second episode of this two-part series.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/houseinorder

Sunday Apr 24, 2022
If You Want Financial Freedom You Can’t Ignore This (Part 1)
Sunday Apr 24, 2022
Sunday Apr 24, 2022
We avoided estate planning for a long time; here's why you shouldn't. Without an estate plan, you're giving over the control of what happens to all your assets to others. In part one of this two-part series, Eric + Jason talk about what they did to - finally - get their respective plans in place. Topics discussed in this episode include the elements of estate planning, why people delay + how to get started, living trusts, and taking care of your heirs. Don't be like those who put this off "until they're older": join us now for the first episode of this two-part series.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/houseinorder

Thursday Apr 14, 2022
Making The Worst Financial Mistake I’ve Ever Made?
Thursday Apr 14, 2022
Thursday Apr 14, 2022
Am I leaving my financial advisors after seven years? Is that foolish? Parting ways with a trusted financial advisor is a difficult and impactful decision. In our last episode, Jason talked with Eric about his thoughts to end his longterm relationship with his financial planners and take the reins himself. In this video, we learn the outcome of that conversation and talk about what their decision means for Jason and Lorri going forward.
Did you miss the first part of this conversation? If so, check out Episode 33: "Breaking Up With My Financial Advisor?"

Sunday Apr 10, 2022
Breaking Up With My Financial Advisor?
Sunday Apr 10, 2022
Sunday Apr 10, 2022
Did you know that financial advisor fees can eat up HALF of your portfolio's value over time? While happy with the good support and great relationship he had with them, Jason was thinking about leaving his financial planners late last year. In this episode, we capture a conversation Eric + Jason had on this topic, as they discussed the merits and downsides of paying assets under management (AUM) fees. Topics covered in this episode include why he stuck with them over the years, the value advisors can bring, more cost-effective options for financial advice, and how Jason is making his decision. Get the facts and make the right choice for yourself!
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/advisors

Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Financial Lessons We’re Passing On (Part 2)
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Kids are incredibly impressionable and as parents, we have a responsibility to educate them in all ways, including in financial matters. In this second installment of a two part series, we continue our discussion on a topic that's been requested many times by viewers: all things relating to kids. Concepts discussed in this episode include saving for college and the roles of parents vs children in that, budgeting, investing, and sharing life lessons by example.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/kids

Sunday Mar 13, 2022
Our FIRE Portfolios Are Down 20%, What Now?
Sunday Mar 13, 2022
Sunday Mar 13, 2022
How has the recent market downturn changed our plans? Jason + Eric candidly discuss their pre- and post-FI moods in this volatile time. Learn what they're doing and thinking about right now as Jason nears the two-year post-FI mark and Eric contemplates pushing his 2024 FI date back.
show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/crash
