
You're listening to Two Sides of FI, a conversation between two lifelong friends about financial independence - what it takes to get there and what comes after. One of us reached FI in 2020, the other in 2024. We started this show to document our different paths, and now that we're both post-FI, we're still figuring out how to use the freedom we spent years working toward. I'm Eric and I'm joined by my friend Jason, and this is our story.
Episodes

Monday Nov 08, 2021
A CoastFI Path to Financial Security: An Interview with Catherine
Monday Nov 08, 2021
Monday Nov 08, 2021
In today's episode we are joined by a guest, who we met in a FIRE Discord server, and wanted to share her story. Our conversation is a great example of the diverse reasons why people choose to seek financial independence. As you’ll discover, family health issues set then 23-year old Catherine on her FI path, largely as a means to ensure her financial security should she encounter issues of her own as she ages. Listen to our conversation to hear just how much progress she's made in only two years.
Interested in checking out the FIRE Discord server? Here's a link: https://discord.gg/ArESGNZRax

Sunday Oct 31, 2021
How We Travel: Pre + Post Financial Independence
Sunday Oct 31, 2021
Sunday Oct 31, 2021
A seven day vacation or 5 weeks of travel - which would you prefer? When you're working towards financial independence, vacations are a time to set aside work and everyday chores. But they're constrained by things you don't often control: accrued vacation time, work and school schedules, business obligations, and holidays, to name a few. In this episode, Eric and Jason compare notes from their two respective sides of FI and their recent vacations: 7 days for Pre-FI Eric and 5 weeks for Post-FI Jason. See just how different is travel once you reach FI and the constraints have been removed.
For more information on Jason's five-week trip, check out his blog post on the topic: https://thenextphaseisnow.com/longest-vacation-of-my-life/

Sunday Oct 17, 2021
Retired Early and I Hated It: How NOT to FIRE, Part 2 (Post-FI/RE)
Sunday Oct 17, 2021
Sunday Oct 17, 2021
Imagine hitting your FI number, retiring early, and discovering you hate it? In this episode we discuss four examples of such an outcome: from quitting the perfect job and regretting it, to feelings of depression and lack of purpose. Some are unable to find motivation without financial incentives, while others realize they haven't budgeted enough to do things they enjoy in life.
This is part 2 of our How NOT to FI/RE series for part 1 and the PRE FI/RE examples, be sure to check out that video here: https://youtu.be/Jb438jvebd0
The full text of each of the Reddit posts we discussed is posted in the show notes at: https://twosidesoffi.com/how-not-to-fire-2

Monday Oct 04, 2021
How NOT to FIRE - Part 1 (Pre-FI/RE)
Monday Oct 04, 2021
Monday Oct 04, 2021
On the path to financial independence, there are ample opportunities for mistakes and missteps. In today's episode, we review stories from people who shared their FIRE experiences online in the hopes of educating others. Here we review five of these tales: incurring tragic losses due to trying to beat the market, losing 75% of your portfolio value due to sector investing, regretting aggressively saving at the expense of living your life, and resenting your partner who doesn't have the same degree of FIRE ambitions as you do.
Show notes, including the full text of Reddit posts from this episode:
https://twosidesoffi.com/how-not-to-fire-1/

Monday Sep 20, 2021
Answering Your Financial Independence Questions
Monday Sep 20, 2021
Monday Sep 20, 2021
You asked, we answered. Bringing the Two Sides of FI together to discuss changing withdrawal rates, Jason and Eric's own FI numbers, redefining identity in early retirement, rental real estate, and more. Want your question featured on an upcoming show?
Leave us a comment on YouTube - https://youtube.com/c/TwoSidesOfFI
or reach out on our contact page - https://twosidesoffi.com/

Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
What I Learned in My First Year of ”Early Retirement”
Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Retiring at 47 is early by any definition. In this episode, Jason reflects on his first year in early retirement. Not everything went smoothly as you might expect. Learn what's changed, what's been better, what's worse, and - importantly - has it lived up to his expectations? If you're excited to reach this milestone but still harbor some reservations about crossing into "retirement", Jason offers a grounded, thoughtful perspective on what to expect and how to prepare for such a life-altering transition.
Read more about his journey on his blog: https://thenextphaseisnow.com/ His milestone post from year 1: https://thenextphaseisnow.com/learnings-from-year-one/

Monday Aug 23, 2021
Discussing FIRE with our Spouses: 2 x Two Sides of FI (Part 2)
Monday Aug 23, 2021
Monday Aug 23, 2021
Talking about FIRE with your partner involves so much more than finances: from friend groups and career aspirations, to personal goals and family dynamics. In part two, Eric + Jason continue the conversation with their spouses, Laura + Lorri, discussing how they share financial responsibilities, the importance of finding friend networks, talking to their children about FIRE, and their hopes for their post-FI lives.
For show notes and resources please check out our website - https://twosidesoffi.com/

Monday Aug 09, 2021
Talking with our Spouses About FIRE: 2 x Two Sides of FI (Part 1)
Monday Aug 09, 2021
Monday Aug 09, 2021
Talking with a spouse or partner about FIRE isn't always easy. In this episode, Eric + Jason bring their wives, Laura + Lorri, into the conversation to share their personal experiences. In part 1 of our two-part conversation, they talk about getting onboard with FIRE, financial topics including budgeting and setting the FI number, as well as the emotional aspects of choosing the FIRE path.
For show notes and resources please check out our website: https://twosidesoffi.com/

Monday Jul 26, 2021
Retiring Early - So Why Am I Worried?
Monday Jul 26, 2021
Monday Jul 26, 2021
Retiring early is a dream for many but the decision to leave the workplace early can impact us in ways we may not have predicted. In this episode, we discuss the first year of Jason's early retirement and Eric shares his own concerns as he approaches FI. For many, work provides a sense of purpose and identity, as well as validation, utility, not to mention financial security. What happens when that no longer exists? What takes its place? How does it impact your personal relationships and your personal sense of accomplishment? Much of the discussion about financial independence, retire early (FIRE) focuses on saving and investing, in this conversation we unpack what it means to leave work behind and fully embrace this life-changing transition. Join us for this conversation about life after FI.
For show notes and resources please check out our website: https://twosidesoffi.com/

Monday Jul 12, 2021
Financially Independent, Live Anywhere? How to Choose (Part 2)
Monday Jul 12, 2021
Monday Jul 12, 2021
Choosing a new area to call home once you've reached financial independence can be an overwhelming task given just how large the problem space is. In part two of this series, Eric and Jason continue their conversation about how to narrow the options of where to live post-FIRE. There's a lot to consider beyond the finances, and the "Where to Live" process they used is again highlighted as a useful tool to support that. Irrespective of your own retirement path, this approach can help you make decisions about relocating to a new area.
Check out the show notes and get a FREE copy of the "Where to Live" planning tool at https://twosidesoffi.com/where-to-live/
